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Clock 15. October 2008 by Norman Jameson, BR Editor

Human nature often finds insult where none is intended.


I'm sure that was the case Oct. 14 at Southeastern Seminary where I attended chapel and the dedication of Patterson Hall, a 36,000-square foot classroom and office building named for Paige and Dorothy Patterson who served as president and first lady at Southeastern 1992-2003.


As is appropriate at such a celebration Patterson was lauded and lifted as an example of statesmanship and preaching excellence. The occasion marked the close of Southeastern’s trustee meeting and the beginning of a Real Evangelism conference with headliner Bailey Smith, a former Southern Baptist Convention president.


Smith said Patterson is, “The No. 1 man who brought the Southern Baptist Convention to its senses.” Patterson is credited, along with Texas layman Paul Pressler, with making biblical inerrancy the Maypole around which the SBC has danced since 1979.


Smith said he was the one who asked Patterson to run for SBC president in 1998 while Patterson was president of Southeastern. (That obvious conflict of interest has precedent but should not be repeated.)


Current Southeastern President Danny Akin, who came to Wake Forest with Patterson from Criswell College, introduced Patterson, who was to bring the chapel message.


“If it were not for Paige Patterson I would not be standing here today,” Akin said, acknowledging the mentor relationship. “And none of you would be here because you would not have wanted to attend a Southeastern Seminary the way it was,” before the changes wrought by Lewis Drummond and Patterson.


I did not attend Southeastern Seminary so I was not insulted for myself at that comment, but I felt slapped on behalf of many godly Christian men and women who attended and taught at Southeastern “the way it was” before Patterson. The list in North Carolina alone is huge.


Akin followed his comment with a short litany of the doldrums Southeastern endured before Patterson began his tenure. Enrollment had dropped to 580 students, he said, and it now serves 2,500, including a new Southeastern College. That is impressive growth.


With its clear focus, engaging leadership and development muscle some say Southeastern Seminary is becoming the epicenter of theological education among Southern Baptist Seminaries.  Akin said “all the good things happening at Southeastern today are traced right back to (Patterson).”


Maybe it’s just my lens coloring it for me, but the statement about the low point and its context implied that Southeastern pre-Patterson was in the doldrums for some reason other than the convulsions of a Southern Baptist Convention adjusting to change and because trustees were undermining the leadership of Randall Lolley, president from 1974-87.


Southeastern’s own website credits significant growth during the Lolley years.


Akin and later Patterson were both careful not to blame Lewis Drummond during whose transitional tenure enrollment and support hit bottom. “Louie Drummond had to come here when it really wasn’t easy,” Patterson said. Drummond, he said, started the turnaround with his “precious spirit, trading good for evil.”


It was a time, Patterson said, when “students were threatened for believing the Bible.” In that context, his comment went unchallenged.


Patterson called himself the “chief troublemaker” in Baptist life when Southeastern called him as president and he expressed appreciation for “all the saints who welcomed us when it wasn’t popular to welcome us.”


Although Patterson’s eventual return to Texas to lead Southwestern Seminary was being paved by his friends who clumsily pushed Southwestern President Ken Hemphill toward other opportunities, Patterson told the dedication crowd that when Southwestern trustees called, “I didn’t think I had another fix in me, but God is gracious.”


I’ve always criticized my critics for their inability to understand that my praise of one thing does not mean I’m castigating its competitor. I can say Hollifield Leadership Center is wonderful without implying that Caraway Conference Center is not. I might be falling into that trap in this instance as a hearer.


The dedication of the Paige and Dorothy Patterson Building was rightly a time to praise the honoree. But the triumphalism it engendered made me feel the insult for those whose contributions in the past were dismissed as little more than labor pains.


It seemed like the man who said, “I don’t like my son-in-law, but didn’t he produce the world’s best grandbaby?”

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DC
Your insight is right in many respects, and I suspect many were unwilling to attend Southeastern during those transitional years until they were sure which way the school would tilt theologically and educationally (due to accreditation concerns). It's difficult, then, to make too much of the numbers as they approached and then hit bottom.

That said, as a "conservative" I've met (and continue to meet) MANY pre-Drummond SEBTS graduates who are just as disgusted with the current state of the institution (for the same reasons they don't like the way the convention controversy shook out) as the post-Patterson grads are with the pre-Drummond institutional state. In other words, just as there are many current students who would not have attended SEBTS the way it was, there are just as many former students who would never attend SEBTS the way it is.

Much can be learned by both sets of graduates as to how best to respect those who have gone before AND those who have come after.

posted Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:33 PM | Report Abuse
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Norman
I'm reminded of Barack Obama's charge that John McCain talks like the Iraq war started with "the surge." Your point is well made, DC. For some, it seems Southeastern's history started with Drummond and Patterson. For others, those tenures mark not the beginning, but the end.

posted Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Report Abuse
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KK
It always disappoints me that "conservative" leaders cannot see that some of us who attended Southeastern pre-Drummond are very dedicated, Bible-believing followers of Christ. It seems we have been dubbed by many leaders as "liberal" just because we attended before Paige Patterson came to "save the seminary." It really is pretty sad.

I even heard one of the present Board of Directors of North Carolina Convention say that the North Carolina Baptist Convention staff will only be worthy when all those "moderates" who went to Southeastern Seminary before the days of Patterson were gone.

And how is God honored by all this? I guess at least Patterson and Akin are honored.

Thank you for your comments about those who served in the past. I am tired of good men and women being dishonored for their contributions in the earlier days of the seminary.

The direction has changed, and good men serve in the seminary now. Good men and a few women are even still getting a worthy education. But I will always cherish my days at the seminary and the impact it made on my walk with the Lord and ministry with His church, even if it was pre-Drummond and Patterson.




posted Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Report Abuse
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Artist28269
Fundamentalists can only thrive with an enemy. Now a gracious God has sent hyperCalvinism to turn them on each other. Let the games begin.

posted Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:07 PM | Report Abuse
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Dr. Sam Catoe
Although I only worked on my D.Min. at Southeastern, I have known and was served by many godly men who trained at the seminary before its "rebirth" during the "conservative resurgance." I've always regretted the uncivil war that took place in the SBC. In particular, I didn't enjoy seeing good and godly people hurt in the name of cleansing our Baptist Zion.
"Insulted" is a strong word, and, although I'm only a D.Min. graduate, I feel the pain of that word in my heart when I read such nonesense as was said by the present powers at SEBTS. Will we ever have an end to this nonesense? Can't we heal and get on with our mission?
Sam Catoe,
Park Street Baptist Church
Columbia, SC
1986 D.Min.

posted Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:30 PM | Report Abuse
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Greg Thornton

As a graduate of Southeastern in 1977, I attended all three years under the "pre-Drummond/Patterson/Aiken" leadership. At present, my daughter is at Southeastern, and I am proud that she is preparing for her God-called ministry at such a wonderful seminary full of Bible Believing, Christ honoring professors. In many ways I envy the Theological education she is receiving now, as I have always considered myself conservative in my views and beliefs.
However, I do agree with DD and KK. I had many special professors like Dr. Leo Green, Dr. Richard Spencer, and Dr. John Durham. I admitt that I didn't always see eye-to-eye with these and others, but I never doubted their concern for me as a student and for their total committment to fulfilling God's call on their lives. I will always be thankful for the degree I received, which has allowed me to serve many wonderful churches and agencies of this great Convention. The present and future are bright, but so was the past. I'm sure other graduates feel much the same.

posted Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:38 PM | Report Abuse
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Susan Smith

Controversy breeds controvery. The only way to end it is to shut up (literally) and move on with the work God has put us here to do. I do not know how Southeastern used to be, but I know that it is a fine conservative Christian institution that prepares its students for ministry, according to the Bible's instruction. Unlike many (not all) other "Christian" institutions out there, Southeastern doesn't shirk from presenting, defending, and teaching the Truth, nor does it "tolerate" the evils that exist.

My husband is a Master's degree student at Southeastern, and we are pleased with the quality of education this institution provides. In fact, every time I attend a chapel service with him, I get filled with great motivation to teach the Truth in my own walk of life. We have also found Dr. Akin to be provide good leadership for this school!

If all Christians would set aside the desire to find faults in other good-meaning Christians, we would better effective witnesses to others! Is anything ever accomplished in finding fault for no good reason? Such actions make Christians ineffective, and it actually turns non-believers away from wanting to know more about Christ.

Let's move ahead not backwards!

posted Friday, October 17, 2008 3:38 PM | Report Abuse
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Norman
I couldn't agree more, Susan. There is plenty to praise at Southeastern without making uncomplimentary remarks about the past by comparison. International Mission Board President Jerry Rankin, told Baptist editors last month that when the IMB compared itself to the past--with increased baptisms, church starts and missionaries on the field, it looked good and administrators felt good. But it didn't make real progress until it compared its status to the need, to the vast lostness that still prevails in the world. Any of us can find something by which we can compare ourselves favorably. Better we compare ourselves and our work to the need that still persists.

posted Friday, October 17, 2008 4:57 PM | Report Abuse
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Joe Babb
I write as a holder to two degrees from SEBTS pre-patterson days. I am greatful for the privilidge made possible by faithful supporters of the Cooperative Program from churches affiliated with the SBC. The faculty taught me to do my best to present myself both to God and man as " a workman who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth" ( II Timothy 2:15). As such, to borrow an apt phrase from Noman, I have refused to dance around the maypole of Patterson and his followers. Reading this account reminds me of a tale by Hans Christian Anderson, "The Emperor's New Clothes". I say that not with bitternes - but saddness. Nor do I mean to demean those dedicated to God's call at SEBTS, I only pray that as they devote themsleves to the study of the scriptues they too will find the confidence to face our Lord and account to Him, not me.

posted Friday, October 17, 2008 6:05 PM | Report Abuse
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Brad Marshall
I attended Southeastern one semester and left in 1988. One of my professors taught that it was not necessary to understand the story of Jesus as an actual event as long as we understood it accurately revealed God's love for us. I am currently attending Southeastern again and will finsh my degree this year. Thank God for the change. Jameson needs to listen to Ergun Caner's conference talk on people who "feel" insulted. Your feelings don't matter went it comes to boldly and accurately proclaiming Christ and the gospel hope. It's not about you!

posted Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:24 PM | Report Abuse
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Randy Davenport
The writer mentions a possible conflict of interest when Patterson was both SBC president and Southeastern President. If you check your baptist history, you will see a precedent. As such, it is not a conflict of interest.

posted Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:17 PM | Report Abuse
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Stephen Z. Hearne

As a graduate from SEBTS in the B.D. days (Before Drummond) - 1979 (M.Div. with Languages) and 1981 (Th.M. in NT) - I am truly thankful and blessed to have studied and learned under such persons as Archie Nations, Don Cook, Tom Bland, John Steely, Max Rogers, Rick Spencer, Furman Hewitt, James Tull, and Leo Green. They showed me how to study seriously and think for myself as I seek God's direction daily. I also learned that in his day, and perhaps in many Christian circles today, Jesus wore a big "L" on his chest for being liberal and liberating - liberating persons from both their sinfulness and the narrow, straight-jacketed religion foisted upon them by their religious leaders. As my career in ministry includes pastoring, chaplaincy, and college teaching, I have concluded that the use of "liberal" does not hurt me because I embrace the definition found in the dictionary - "open-minded; broad-minded; not tied to narrow literal interpretations; willing to ask serious questions and seek answers; favoring individual freedom". I have learned that the freedom we have is to always be balanced with responsible action, and that soul competency, priesthood of believers, and religious liberty are to be cherished over lock-step religion. I thank God every day for the SEBTS I was blessed to know.

posted Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:56 AM | Report Abuse
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Norman
Randy is correct--as I mentioned--that an SBC institutional executive has served as SBC president while he held paid office. However, he states since there is precedent, it is alright. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just because it's been done before doesn't make it right. Just think about the things in your life, or in the lives of other very public persons, that have been done before, thereby establishing precedent. How many of them do NOT merit repeating? For a currently serving SBC executive to also serve as SBC president is a direct and obvious conflict of interest because the SBC president names a Committee on Committees, which nominates a nominating committee that puts forward the names of trustees to be elected to every institution--including his own! Additionally, he is serving as president while a budget committee he had influence in naming is determining the distribution of Cooperative Program funds to all agencies and institutions--including his own! The conflict is so obvious a wise executive wouldn't even consider allowing his name to be placed in nomination for SBC president while he is simultaneously employed by an SBC agency or institution.

posted Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:29 AM | Report Abuse
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Artist28269
As J. R. Ewing once observed, "once integrity goes, everything else is a piece of cake."

posted Friday, October 24, 2008 9:56 AM | Report Abuse

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